Can the stock market go to zero? — A Frugal Doctor (2024)

When I discuss investing with people, one concern that some have shared is that if they invest in the stock market, there is a chance their investments will “go to zero”. Is this a realistic fear? Let’s take a look at history as well as what stock prices actually represent.

Some stocks have gone to zero!

First of all, it is entirely possible for any individual company to fail and for its stock to go to zero. In fact, this is not an infrequent occurrence. According to statista.com, somewhere between 19,000 to 60,000 businesses file for bankruptcy every year in the United States, although not all of these are publicly traded companies. Sometimes, distressed companies are able to find a buyer, restructure their businesses, raise new capital, and remain in business. Sometimes, the company ceases to do business and is completely dissolved, with any existing assets liquidated to pay off debt.

Some well-known examples exist in recent public memory, such as Lehman Brothers, Blockbuster, and Enron. All of these were public companies that "went to zero” for different reasons. If the entirety of your investment was in one of these companies, then your investment went to zero. In the history of the US stock market, many companies have come and gone. None of the original 12 companies that made up the Dow Jones Industrial Average in 1896 are still on the Dow today. General Electric and Exxon Mobile traded blows as the largest companies in the world by market capitalization for most of my lifetime, but neither are even in the top 10 today. Therefore, it is possible for any single stock investment to fail. And even without a stock going to zero, traders run the risk of significant losses from poor decisions. Day traders, especially those who use leverage, can easily make bad trades and suffer total or near-total loss.

But what if you invest broadly in the S&P 500 or the total US stock market via a total stock market index fund? Can the entire US stock market ever go to zero? Here, history is much kinder to to the investor - the US market has provided tremendous returns to investors and has never gone to zero. And while theoretically possible, the entire US stock market going to zero would be incredibly unlikely. It would, in fact, take a catastrophic event involving the total dissolution of the US government and economic system for this to occur.

What is a stock?

To understand why, let’s talk about what a stock’s price fundamentally represents. Simply put, a stock is a fraction of ownership stake in a company. Therefore, the price of a stock depends on both the total value of the company as well as how many shares of the company’s stock exist. As I discussed in my active versus passive investing article, how to properly value a company is the ultimate question of investing. Most people agree, however, that stock prices represent some combination of book value, which is the company’s current balance sheet in terms of assets and debts, as well as the expectation of all of the company’s future earnings with a present-day discount applied (with temporary exceptions, such as the recent GameStop saga).

For further reading on stocks and stock valuations, I strongly recommend Investing 101: What are stocks?

In order for a stock to go to zero, a company must have zero net assets, and it must not be expected to make any future profits, ever. Note that both of these conditions must be met. Even companies which are currently in debt, or have negative “net worth” if you will, can still have positive valuation, as long as the company is profitable, or has hope of making a profit in the future. Similarly, companies which are not yet profitable, or operating at a net loss, can also have positive valuation, as long as they have net assets, or have expectation of future earnings. In fact, this is not uncommon, as most new companies operate at a loss for years before reaching maturity and profitability. A stock price of zero, however, means that the expectation of future earnings is irrevocably lost, as would be the case for a company that dissolves and ceases to do business.

In order for an entire stock market to go to zero, the same would need to be true for all companies in the stock market. This would mean that all companies have zero net assets and no hope of future earnings. Think about that for a minute. We’re basically saying that no company in the market will ever do business again in the future. Essentially, this signals the end of the economic system as we know it.

Have any stock markets gone to zero before?

The answer is yes, although under extraordinary circ*mstances. Globally, only a few markets have suffered total market loss. The largest and most well known markets that went to zero are Russia in 1917 and China in 1949. While many other markets have collapsed or temporarily ceased trading, many have subsequently recovered, and total loss is extremely rare. So what happened in these two countries?

In Russia, the St. Petersburg Stock Exchange actually outperformed the New York Stock Exchange in returns from 1865 to 1914. The stock exchange paused trading in 1914 when Russia entered into World War I. In 1917, the stock exchange reopened and traded briefly for 2 months, before the Russian Revolution and subsequent civil war ended the Russian monarchy for good. The Russian Empire was overthrown and was replaced by the USSR in 1922. The St. Petersburg Stock Exchange ceased to exist during this time. Pre-revolution assets became worthless and investors suffered total loss.

In China, the Shanghai Stock Exchange was established in 1866 and and paused trading in 1941. Note that during this time, China experienced a prolonged civil war from 1927 to 1936. Simultaneously, northern China was invaded and occupied by Japan in 1931 during the invasion of Manchuria. Even in the midst of civil war and foreign invasion, the exchange continued trading. The belligerent parties in the Chinese civil war ceased hostilities and formed a united front against Japan when Japan launched a full scale invasion of China in 1937, starting the Second Sino-Japanese War. Shanghai fell to Japanese invaders after a 3 month battle and was occupied. Remarkably, the stock exchange remained open until December 8, 1941 despite foreign occupation. Japan’s actions in China and the rest of Asia eventually escalated to the Pacific Theater of World War II. Following Japan’s defeat and unconditional surrender at the end of World War II, the Shanghai Stock Exchange reopened for trading in 1946. However, hostilities resumed in the Chinese civil war from 1946 to 1949. The stock exchange finally stopped trading for good in 1949, when the Chinese Communist Party gained total control of mainland China. The Republic of China ceased to exist (on the mainland) and all existing assets were seized by the new communist government. Pre-war investors suffered total loss.

In contrast, none of the other major World War II participants, including the United States, Germany, France, Japan, or England suffered total market loss, although actual trading in Japan and many European countries was limited or suspended near the end of the war. Note that even when exchanges temporarily pause trading, existing assets are not valueless! They only become valueless if completely destroyed or seized. This is not to suggest that the war was not economically ruinous, but merely that stock markets did not collapse to zero, even in Japan or Germany.

As you can see, stock markets are incredibly resilient. Both total loss events resulted not from a pandemic, defeat in a world war, or even foreign occupation, but rather from an existing government’s total defeat in a civil war, establishment of a new country and government, and complete replacement of the existing economic system by communism.

So can the US stock market go to zero?

Can both the government and the economic system fail in the United States to such an extent that all existing companies on the stock exchange become valueless with no prospects of any future business? Perhaps. Recently, some of my friends pointed out that the Capitol Hill insurrection surrounding certification of electoral votes shows that this nightmarish scenario might be closer to reality than we think, but I disagree. I don’t intend to discuss politics on this blog, but while events on Capitol Hill were deeply troubling, the stock markets were unfazed and the S&P 500 closed on January 6, 2021 up about 1% from open. The stock market often feels irrational, but in its own way it is the ultimate barometer of public sentiment. I believe the US market would have survived regardless of 2020 election results. As horrible as it sounds, the stock market cares about profits, not democracy - plenty of countries with undemocratic governments but thriving markets (i.e., present-day China) can attest to this.

In short, capitalism in this country may be more resilient than democracy itself. The possibility of the US falling to a communist revolution is very low. Your real concern in this scenario is survival rather than portfolio performance. I should point out that if this happens, “guaranteed” investments such as FDIC-insured bank accounts and government treasuries will also be valueless, and even if you held “safe haven” assets such as physical gold, you would not be able to protect it. And if you diversify your investments beyond just the US stock market, but also include the global stock market, the chances of your investments going to zero are too remote to warrant consideration. This sort of thing shouldn’t keep you up at night. At the risk of sounding vain, I will quote a passage from my own book:

In that case, financial planning is almost certainly irrelevant and risk mitigation is merely wishful thinking. I think that investing, at baseline, requires some degree of optimism that you have a future, and that society as we know it will still exist in the future. If you did not share this optimism, why invest for retirement at all?

So in conclusion, rest assured that as long as you are properly diversified, your stock investments won’t go to zero.

Happy investing!

Can the stock market go to zero? — A Frugal Doctor (2024)

FAQs

Can the stock market go to zero? — A Frugal Doctor? ›

In order for an entire stock market to go to zero, the same would need to be true for all companies in the stock market. This would mean that all companies have zero net assets and no hope of future earnings.

Is it possible for the stock market to go to zero? ›

Stock prices can fall all the way down to zero. That means the stock loses all of its value and a shareholder's earnings are typically worthless. In this case, the investor loses what they invested in the stock.

What happens to your money if a stock goes to zero? ›

A drop in price to zero means the investor loses his or her entire investment: a return of -100%. To summarize, yes, a stock can lose its entire value. However, depending on the investor's position, the drop to worthlessness can be either good (short positions) or bad (long positions).

Should people pull their money out of the stock market? ›

Unlike the rapidly dwindling balance in your brokerage account, cash will still be in your pocket or in your bank account in the morning. However, while moving to cash might feel good mentally and help you avoid short-term stock market volatility, it is unlikely to be a wise move over the long term.

Do I lose my money if a stock is delisted? ›

Though delisting does not affect your ownership, shares may not hold any value post-delisting. Thus, if any of the stocks that you own get delisted, it is better to sell your shares. You can either exit the market or sell it to the company when it announces buyback.

Do you lose all your money if the stock market crashes? ›

While it appears that you're losing money during a market crash, in reality, it's just your stocks losing value. For example, say you buy 10 shares of a stock priced at $100 per share, so your total account balance is $1,000. If that stock price drops to $80 per share, those shares are now only worth $800.

Has a stock ever come back from $0? ›

Can a stock ever rebound after it has gone to zero? Yes, but unlikely. A more typical example is the corporate shell gets zeroed and a new company is vended [sold] into the shell (the legal entity that remains after the bankruptcy) and the company begins trading again.

What to do with a stock that went to zero? ›

When a stock's price falls to zero, a shareholder's holdings in this stock become worthless. Major stock exchanges actually delist shares once they fall below specific price values.

How low can a stock go before being delisted? ›

How to Stay Listed. Listing requirements vary from one exchange to the next. For example, on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE), if a security's price closed below $1.00 for 30 consecutive trading days, that exchange would initiate the delisting process.

Can you claim a loss if stock goes to zero? ›

Here's what you need to do to report your loss: Report any worthless securities on Form 8949. You'll need to explain to the IRS that your loss totals differ from those presented by your broker on your Form 1099-B and why. You need to treat securities as if they were sold or exchanged on the last day of the tax year.

At what age should you get out of the stock market? ›

There are no set ages to get into or to get out of the stock market. While older clients may want to reduce their investing risk as they age, this doesn't necessarily mean they should be totally out of the stock market.

What is the stock market prediction for 2024? ›

The Big Money bulls forecast that the Dow Jones Industrial Average will end 2024 at about 41,231, 9% higher than current levels. Market optimists had a mean forecast of 5461 for the S&P 500 and 17,143 for the Nasdaq Composite —up 9% and 10%, respectively, from where the indexes were trading on May 1.

Do 90% of people lose money in the stock market? ›

About 90% of investors lose money trading stocks. That's 9 out of every 10 people — both newbies and seasoned professionals — losing their hard earned dollars by trying to outsmart an unpredictable and extremely volatile machine.

How to sell a stock that is delisted? ›

If you own delisted shares, you can still sell them on the Over-the-Counter Bulletin Board (OTCBB) or on the Pink Sheets, which have more relaxed regulations and few listing requirements. OTC trading is volatile, and this level of risk is typically not suitable for beginning investors.

Is delisting good or bad? ›

The consequences of delisting can be significant since stock shares not traded on one of the major stock exchanges are more difficult for investors to research and harder to purchase. This means that the company is unable to issue new shares to the market to establish new financial initiatives.

What happens if there are no buyers for a stock? ›

Typically, this happens in thinly traded stocks on the pink sheets or over-the-counter bulletin board (OTCBB), not stocks on a major exchange like the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE). When there are no buyers, you can't sell your shares—you'll be stuck with them until there is some buying interest from other investors.

Can you write off a stock that goes to zero? ›

You can then report the total loss on Schedule D recognizing the loss from the worthless stock. This process allows you to claim the capital loss and lets you get your tax break.

What happens when a stock becomes worthless? ›

In some cases, stock you own may have become completely worthless. If so, you can claim a loss equal to your basis in the stock, which is generally what you paid for it. The stock is treated as though it had been sold on the last day of the tax year.

Have hundreds of stocks fallen below $1? ›

Hundreds of stocks have broken the buck this year, following a slump in the once-hot market for buzzy startups seeking rapid growth. As of Friday, 557 stocks listed on U.S. exchanges were trading below $1 a share, up from fewer than a dozen in early 2021, according to Dow Jones Market Data.

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