Mining & Smithing - Stone Spirit and Component Fixes - News - RuneScape - RuneScape (2024)

Hello everybody.

It's been a while since we made any Mining & Smithing changes. Too long, probably. While the rework overall was a huge success, we don't want to ignore the two specific ongoing issues - stone spirits on drop tables, and access to smithable invention components.

Stone Spirits & Drop Tables

To catch everyone up on some information we've given before, let's quickly go over the state of stone spirits in the game. They're worth roughly the same as the associated ore - although recently stone spirits have dropped slightly. But because the ores aren't worth much, stone spirits aren't worth much either.

The net impact on drop tables hasn't been as impactful as players believe. When we ran the numbers, the worst case (Araxxor) was down 4% in average drop value, while Nex was actually up slightly. However, we've received a lot of feedback that getting a drop that's worth significantly less than other items on the drop table feels bad even if it's not having any real impact on gold per hour.

We know a lot of you want us to fix this by either removing stone spirits from drop tables entirely, or by giving them some sort of new, very powerful use that will increase their value. However, we'd still prefer not to go down this route if we can avoid it. It's not because stone spirits are precious - they're not, and if they really don't work we can abandon the concept. It's actually because the low value of stone spirits is only a symptom of the real problem - which is the low value of ore. Even if we replaced stone spirits to increase the value of drop tables, we'd still need to fix the ore value problem as well, so it makes sense to focus our efforts there and try to kill two birds with one stone.

The main reason for the low value of ore is the rate at which it can be produced through AFK Mining. We wanted to provide extremely low interaction options, but this has allowed a flood of ore to be produced at near zero effort, keeping the prices low.

This has been exacerbated by a general lack of interest in Smithing. The release of the rework saw a huge and sustained increase in players Mining, but no similar increase in players Smithing, even after Double XP Weekend where you'd expect to see a spike in buyable skills. We partially addressed this by making Smithing more convenient and buffing armour spikes, but we can still do better.

Smithable Components

The second major issue is access to components, especially the exact components you want. The rework made smithable items much more useful to smiths as a source of XP, but almost worthless for disassembly. In practice this hasn't worked out well for anyone - Smithing XP isn't being valued highly enough to keep smithable items above their alch value, but they still disassemble so badly that they're not worth buying for that purpose. Meanwhile salvage provides a lot of free components from PVM, but it's hard to target the ones you specifically want. Because the spring cleaner is so convenient for automatic disassembly, there's very little salvage to buy on the GE.

THE SOLUTIONS

To try to resolve these issues we have two major changes planned, along with a few minor changes to complement them.

AFK Mining changes

The first major change is a large reduction in AFK Mining rates. Currently, as your stamina drops to zero, your passive Mining progress is lowered to about 80% of what you'd get playing actively. Taking into account that rockertunities effectively double your rates when playing at least semi-actively, AFK Mining is about 40% as effective as active Mining.

We're going to change this so that at zero stamina you will get about 20% passive Mining progress. Including rockertunities. This will result in AFK Mining being about 10% as effective as active Mining, a fourfold reduction in XP and ore. This won't have much impact on anyone who's playing at least semi-actively - for example, if you only click on rockertunities, this refills your stamina quite frequently. What it will impact is completely AFK Mining, which will only be a quarter as effective as it is now.

We hope that this will remove the incentive to run multiple AFK accounts since they won't produce much ore at all without substantially more work and interaction. This should hugely reduce the flow of ore into the game and thus increase its value over time.

There is already an in-game way to get around this new penalty to AFK Mining - stone spirits. If you're Mining while using a perfect Mining juju potion, and you have a stack of stone spirits, then every time you mine an ore you'll automatically refill to 100% stamina. This means that you can continue to generate ore while AFK if you're prepared to buy stone spirits up front - this should increase the value of stone spirits.

Smithable Components

However, reducing the supply of ore won't increase the value much without increasing the demand as well, which is where the second fix comes in. We are substantially improving the component rate from disassembling smithable items. Whereas before every item disassembled into 8 components, items will now disassemble into 3 components for each bar used in their manufacture, which includes bars used to upgrade to higher levels.

For example, a longsword +1 costs 2 bars to make and 2 bars to upgrade for a total of 4 bars. When disassembled, it will provide 4 x 3 = 12 components instead of the old 8. The biggest change is the elder rune platebody +5, which used to provide 8 components and now disassembles into an impressive 480.

The junk rate will be standard for the level of the item. In practice this would mean that elder rune items wouldn't be worth disassembling, so to increase their value we've given them a higher chance of providing uncommon components.

This change is aimed at fixing two problems - firstly, it will restore Smithing as the skill which provides components you need on demand. This makes components more available, especially for Ironmen. Secondly, it should increase the demand for, and thus value of, smithable gear. If this happens, it will in turn increase the value of ore and then the value of stone spirits, thus ultimately buffing drop tables.

Other Fixes

We're making two other small changes which resolve issues created by these major changes. The first is that Seren stones exist as intentionally AFK Mining content, which would be seriously nerfed by the stamina changes. To alleviate this, we are removing stamina as a mechanic from Seren stones entirely - this means you will always mine at full rate, which is fine as Seren stones don't produce ore which can be devalued. This means anyone who wants to level the Mining skill while AFK can still do so. However, this also makes accumulating corrupted ore much faster, so we'll be reducing the drop rate of corrupted ore to compensate.

The second change is that with the huge buff to components, the Breakdown perk would be insanely strong, so we're also changing it to reflect the new rates.

We're releasing this blog ahead of the changes themselves to make sure everyone is aware of the upcoming changes and has a chance to give feedback. You can expect to see them in game within a few weeks.

Mod Jack & Mod Shogun

Mining & Smithing - Stone Spirit and Component Fixes  - News - RuneScape - RuneScape (2024)

FAQs

Have you heard about the mining and Smithing rework? ›

Prior to the rework, the ability to smith different items from each type of metal bar was unlocked at varying Smithing levels. Since the rework, the player unlocks the ability to create all possible items from that metal upon reaching the level required.

What is Smithing and mining in RuneScape? ›

Smithing is an artisan skill through which players may create a wide variety of metal items from ore and metal bars. It is the companion skill of Mining, which generates all of the raw materials used in Smithing. Ores acquired from Mining are smelted into metal bars at furnaces, and then hammered into items at anvils.

Do stone spirits give XP? ›

It will also boost your mining experience by 10% while banking ore. The ore that activates the stone spirit to appear will be sent to the bank, but will not receive the 10% experience boost.

Where is the best place to Smith in RuneScape? ›

Profit making through smithing. Smithing with profit usually demands a combination of a high level, a high investment, and low experience rates. The best place to smelt bars is Lumbridge as the bank chest and the furnace are really close together.

Can you get smithy from corrupted ore? ›

Smithy can be unlocked by training Smithing via smelting bars or corrupted ore; smithing bars into weapons or armour; casting Superheat Item; working at the Smithing plot in the Clan Citadel; or doing the burial equipment or ceremonial swords activities at the Artisans' Workshop.

How are mines remediated? ›

Mine remediation projects may include the following: Treatment or removal of soil, sediments, groundwater, or surface water. The demolition and removal of unused infrastructure. The upgrading of dams to protect against tailings spills.

What is the best item to make for Smithing in RuneScape? ›

Smelting elder rune bars is the best way to make money from Smithing in the game. The process is very AFK and simple. Here are the the thing you will need to do this method: 94 Smithing.

What is the fastest Mining experience in RuneScape? ›

3-tick mining granite (commonly referred to as "3t4g", 3-tick 4 granite) at the Quarry offers the fastest Mining experience from level 45 onwards. 3-tick mining is done by using swamp tar on a clean herb (or other suitable items) to set up the 3-tick cycle and then moving to a granite rock to mine it.

What is the best way to make money Mining in RuneScape? ›

Soft clay is in high demand since it is used to craft skilling urns. Go to the Ithell district in Prifddinas and start mining it. If the voice of Seren is in the district it provides a 50% chance of banking the clay to your bank. Wearing a grace of elves will increase your profits since it will spawn Seren spirits.

What is the best ore for XP? ›

Here are some items that give a good amount of XP when smelted:
  • Iron ore: Smelting iron ore gives 5 XP.
  • Gold ore: Smelting gold ore gives 8 XP.
  • Diamond ore: Smelting diamond ore gives 9 XP.
  • Emerald ore: Smelting emerald ore gives 9 XP.
  • Nether quartz ore: Smelting nether quartz ore gives 5 XP.

How do I get more spirit stones? ›

You can invite friends for Spirit Stones. The higher your level, when inviting your friend, the more Spirit Stones you'll obtain. These will give you Bonus Spirit Stones that expire in 30 days. There's also the option of buying Spirit Stones, which will give you non-expirable Spirit Stones.

Can you recharge spirit stones? ›

It is a type of Alchemy Stone that cannot be recharged. Because a Spirit Stone cannot be recharged, when its Durability is depleted it can no longer be used. It is also not as effective as an Alchemy Stone. However, it has the advantage of being easier to get than an Alchemy Stone.

How many gold bars can you smith per hour in osrs? ›

Experience rates
BarSmithingDefault
LevelBars/h
Gold (Smithing cape)995,800–6,850
Mithril501,900–2,250
Mithril hybrid [n 2]50N/A [n 4]
10 more rows

How much gold for 99 Smithing? ›

231,268 gold ores are required to achieve 99 Smithing if using the goldsmith gauntlets. Gold ores are worth 206 and gold bars are worth 46. Stamina potions, which are mandatory for optimal experience rates, are consumed at a rate of 1 dose in 1 minute and 30 seconds, and paying the workers costs 72,000 an hour.

Where should I start in RuneScape? ›

New and returning players will begin on Tutorial Island where they'll be met by Reginald. He'll explain the basic mechanics of the game, including how to move the player character and the camera. From there you should follow the tutorial to learn more about the world in which you have have arrived.

Does mining increase smithing? ›

would it level up my smithing? No, but you get ore which you can use in smithing. You can only level up Smithing by making armor/weapons or upgrading them.

What do modern miners do? ›

Modern miners

The basics of mining engineering includes finding, extracting, and preparing minerals, metals and coal. These mined products are used for electric power generation and manufacturing industries.

How do miners work in the past? ›

In the beginning, miners used primitive tools for digging. Mining shafts were dug out by hand or using stone tools, making the entire process very lengthy. Eventually, the pick and hammer were replaced with fire to clear tunnels and reach greater depths at a faster rate.

Does Mines reset Skyrim? ›

Ore veins generally replenish their ores after about a month (in-game) if the area is marked as "cleared." Otherwise, it replenishes in 10 days. Some veins (e.g. Ebony) respawn sooner, or later than the one month. Each vein, regardless of ore type, will yield three pieces of ore, and at most two precious gems.

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